MCNSPORT: Need for Speed D-Mac 86

[MCNSPORT.com]

Some of you have seen this already but its time to do an official build thread with extra pictures

Here is the press release from Speedhunters
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2010/08/06/driver-blog-darren-mcnamara-announcing-the-d_2D00_mac-86.aspx

Originally this was to be our Prototype ae86 but then Need for Speed came on board and we decided to build something extra special

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We started off with the battered re86....

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And we began to remove bits we deemed unnecessary

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Until we ended up with as much or a little ae86 as possible

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We started by welding up all the holes that would leave tyre smoke or rain water into the cockpit

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Then we fabricated the rear strut bar that will be integrated into the rollcage and also the rear chassis bar

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We then started to position the centre hoop so we could fab the platforms for it to sit on

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We moved to the front then as we had no where to mount our tension rods and anti roll bar so we fabbed a new front chassis section from scratch

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We cant wait to show you more, stay tuned to www.speedhunters.com for the latest build updates

Darren

[Prodrifter86]

Sweet some serious fabbing going on!:D

[skinny d]

Love all the fabrication that's going into this :D

[grange]

serious welding!

[Kane-Driftcommunity]

there is hardly anything left of the car :D:D

[RedF]

that's alot of work! cant wait to see it finished tho :D

[Drift_sil80]

this is going to be the lightest drift car compeating
best of luck with the build.
any idea of what it weighs??

[PS13!]

this is going to be an epic build im keeping an eye on this thread

[dR Dan]

this is going to be the lightest drift car compeating
best of luck with the build.
any idea of what it weighs??

I cant think of the exact figures but i think it was like 780ish before we started...

But itl actualli probaly be a little heavier...

However a lot more ponies under the hood will compensate delightfully :D

[MCNSPORT.com]

previous version of the re86 was 766kg

when completed this car will prob weigh a bit more due to some of the ideas we're doing like the rear mounted radiator

[PeterT]

Bethejaysus! Thats mad, nothing left of it! Full 'glass rear end?

[MCNSPORT.com]

yes its a full frp rear end and we have it already made with tail lights n all moulded in

[Tekno Twinky]

yes its a full frp rear end and we have it already made with tail lights n all moulded in

all you need now is a remote control and a TAMIYA sticker fore the roof!:D

plastic fantastic rear end sounds mad! any pics of that?

is this gona be an AE86 shaped, N2 styled (but with pimpin 17's), rotary powered , DRIFT machine?

in fairness it should be awesome ha!

[Prodrifter86]

its a seriously crazy machine! cant wait to hear it and see it!

[Dori_Rory]

Subscribed! Great work! Keep it up........this will be epic:eek:

Rory

[Tekno Twinky]

it will NEVER be this cool to me again

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[Prodrifter86]

it will NEVER be this cool to me again

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i sort of half agree with u in a way! that was just so sort grass roots etc...

but now its in a different class!

i think i seriously like both !

[ae86-connell]

i own these wheels now :) shes some car

[MCNSPORT.com]

it will NEVER be this cool to me again

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I thought you sed you didnt think it was an ae86 then???

i'm always looking for something new to do

[pole drift]

will this kinda be considered a space frame the fact that you hav added the tubes to the front and rear of the chassis???

[Tekno Twinky]

I thought you sed you didnt think it was an ae86 then???

i'm always looking for something new to do

nah it was awesome there! seen it in rosegreen that weekend you were with bergin and has totaled EQUIP's haha..boo

[MCNSPORT.com]

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It's update time !!! The Need for Speed D-Mac '86 is coming along very nicely at MCNSPORT HQ. Let's take a look at some of the interesting details of the build so far......

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I wanted a way to be able to add caster to the front suspension without pulling the wheel forward so we got these tops made up and welded in place ... simple but effective!

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The scuttle or wiper panel has been removed and the roll cage has been extended to the strut tops and reinforced further with swagged plates. I love swagged plates like these, they look so cool :-)

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The passenger side also gets this treatment. Here you can also see the air intake for the heater has been sealed up along with the bulkhead for the AC pipes. No AC in this hachi!

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We have started to fab the chassis mount for the track control arms. These should be fully finished in the next update.

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The rear end has seen most of our attention. We have decided to go with a rear four link. Three forward facing links and a panhard bar for various reasons. One of them being the position of the fuel cell behind the passenger seat (car is RHD). You can see one of the mounting brackets for the cell in the picture above. Placing the cell behind the passenger seat gives us the best possible weight distribution. Oh and this is only a mock up like arm, the final one will be much nicer.

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Here is a good shot of the rear section of the roll cage. You can see the tabs welded at various intervals on the main hoop section. This will be paneled off to prevent Falken tire smoke, water, dirt and flames from entering the cockpit. You can also see how the third link has been integrated into the roll cage and has four different mounting positions for different suspension setups.

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More rear end detail; The original Panhard Rod mount has been removed from the chassis and 2 more have been fabbed, one on each side. They are much shorter than the original cos this car will be much lower than Toyota intended or at least the axle is. As with any live axle vehicle, the bigger the wheels you use the closer the axle gets to the floor. The chassis panhard mount remains slotted until the vehicle is dropped onto the floor and the final suspension geometry is done. At that point a tab with 3 to 4 holes in it will be welded over the slot in the correct position. Also we can see the axle has been triangulated for strength, we'll take a closer look at that two pictures below.

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This is the rear most structural part of our AE86 chassis. if we bend this we are after hitting hard! The bolt flange you see welded on is just for mounting on our rotisserie but the same flange will be used to mount the removal bumper bars front and rear.

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Here we can see the axle triangulation. I don't think this much torque has been put through an AE86 before especially with only 3 forward axle links. So to prevent the axle twisting we strengthened it at its weakest point.

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Time to drool! Here are the Work Meister S1's in 17x10 with negative 39 offset. The most gangster wheels ever to be fitted to a hachi ! Big thank you to Work Wheels for their support and enthusiasm for this project

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Here is where the wheels would be if they were fitted to a standard car. Out of focus you can see the swagged plate continues from the engine bay up the "A" pillar.

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The powerplant is finally at MCNSPORT HQ. A Hayward Rotary built Bridgeported 13B.

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Here you can see our amazing MCN / AVO AE86 Rear Coilovers. The best AE86 shock absorbers on the market shall be used to transmit 500BHP to the pavement.

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The majority of the roof skin has been removed and will be replaced with our FRP roof skin. The section behind the centre hoop will have a drop vent to provide air for the rear mounted radiator.

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Our WRC inspired roll cage is now fully finished

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This swagged plate is just awaiting welding in to complete the strengthening of the floor mounted axle link points

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The new disposable rear is ready ahead of time. It's a complete clam shell style mould of a JDM spec ae86 rear with tail lights and all in place. This will make wall rubbing inexpensive and quiet spectacular but best of all panels can be replaced easily between runs.

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A nice stack of Work Wheels ready for Falken Tires and some serious abuse!!

[Dori_Rory]

Great work lads! And those wheels are f***ing epic!! :eek::eek:

[Cooldrft]

A new benchmark is being set here :eek:
Fair play to you for giving such detailed info of the build :cool:

[Jay Rockett]

Bad-ass Dmac, i need to see this in the flesh sometime!

[alan180sx]

great work darren serious detail an those wheels are pure drool

[mick-skyline]

that thing is fooking gorgeous, again with the cams, a car i really dont like and yet this one i do, must be the wheels...

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who couldnt like a car with those on it

[DaveM-sport]

will this kinda be considered a space frame the fact that you hav added the tubes to the front and rear of the chassis???

Well???



Some nice work gone into it so far though. I like the cage!

[MCNSPORT.com]

Well???



Some nice work gone into it so far though. I like the cage!

You are not allowed modify between the wheels. in front and behind are open really

[bawney]

cant wait to see this finshed, best of luck with the rest of the build lad

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

Savage savage work darren....! I hope you were wearing the gloves ya were waring last saturday night to protect your hands.... lol...! Can't wait to see this finished.....!

[sr20]

some build man savage wheels pure drool material

[MCNSPORT.com]

Savage savage work darren....! I hope you were wearing the gloves ya were waring last saturday night to protect your hands.... lol...! Can't wait to see this finished.....!

hahahaah

cheers man

na theyre my pulling gloves haha

[Prodrifter86]

wow serious fabbing again.. cant wait to see more pictures!!!!!

[MCNSPORT.com]

More build pics for you guys

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[Aidan Hogan]

Coming along well now Darren , top class work involved I can see

[MCNSPORT.com]

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Its wide!!!!!!!

[Dori_Rory]

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Its wide!!!!!!!

Me likey!! :D:D:eek:

[MCNSPORT.com]

Some more teaser photos for you guys...........

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[tweek]

did you get the idea of the trd arches after my watannabes nearly took the arches off the side of your sr86 when we trial fitted them to see if the dmax arches would be wide enough lol

[paddy_last]

This is the coolest ae86 build iv ever seen it's just unreal. Any time scale on when your hoping to have it done?

[MCNSPORT.com]

This is the coolest ae86 build iv ever seen it's just unreal. Any time scale on when your hoping to have it done?

hopefully be finished in Jan

[MCNSPORT.com]

did you get the idea of the trd arches after my watannabes nearly took the arches off the side of your sr86 when we trial fitted them to see if the dmax arches would be wide enough lol

haha think i remember that

even your watanabes would be lost under these arches. These are not TRD arches either TRD are much smaller

[tweek]

haha think i remember that

even your watanabes would be lost under these arches. These are not TRD arches either TRD are much smaller
heh heh must pop down for a look i'd be interested in these.rough idea on cost

[paddy_last]

hopefully be finished in Jan

Sweet can't wait will you be using it in prodrift next year?

[MCNSPORT.com]

I hope to be in mondello with it. cant commit to anything else at mo

[ae86-connell]

mondello ftw :)

[jamie180sx]

can i ask,with 500hp in shell that light how are you planning on getting grip,i see your running 17 x10j but still wont be easy,i have seen with damien shortt the issues on getting grip with his car with toyo t1r,but shurly a shell that light cannot put down that power and gain forward moving,hopefully im wrong,and look forward to seeing this but what u recon yourself,
savage fab work btw;)

[dR Dan]

can i ask,with 500hp in shell that light how are you planning on getting grip,i see your running 17 x10j but still wont be easy,i have seen with damien shortt the issues on getting grip with his car with toyo t1r,but shurly a shell that light cannot put down that power and gain forward moving,hopefully im wrong,and look forward to seeing this but what u recon yourself,
savage fab work btw;)

Lol you surely no who your talkn to... :)

As most no no only a good driver, serious mecahnical no how!

She'l be just fine for grip ;)

[Tekno Twinky]

Some more teaser photos for you guys...........

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hehe tec arts style!

[jamie180sx]

Lol you surely no who your talkn to... :)

As most no no only a good driver, serious mecahnical no how!

She'l be just fine for grip ;)

i do know:p,im looking forward to see this go,but good driver or not,id like to know whats he going to do for grip,ive no doubt his ability but when you have no grip,good driver or not its an issue,a 500hp ae86 that is that light is no doubt gonna have issues that way,be intresting to see

[okachan]

seen a clip of one triple rotor on the wangan , orido and friends were in pusuit , the hachi turned in to a small dot at the drop of a kog...


got to sa fair play...toyota rotory development
look forward to hearing it on full tilt

[MCNSPORT.com]

i do know:p,im looking forward to see this go,but good driver or not,id like to know whats he going to do for grip,ive no doubt his ability but when you have no grip,good driver or not its an issue,a 500hp ae86 that is that light is no doubt gonna have issues that way,be intresting to see

Good suspension and suspension geometry is what gives you grip not the weight of your vehicle

obviously tyres play a part but its how the power is transmitted thru the tyres that is more important

It may seem to some people that extra weight gives more grip but its not true. extra weight causes lots more problems. Equally ive seen many a tank of a car smoking tyres and going nowhere

I set up Damien Shorts car for 2010 and im sure he would say himself that its now night and day compared to 2009. It gave him his first podium this year if im correct. His car is prob the same power and weight as my old sr86 and that didnt have grip problems either

Everyone said 3 years ago when ASD built the Saturn Sky that it was too powerfull and too light. It weighs 1000kg and has 800hp and 780ft.lbs of torque and now its regularly the fastest car on the grid

A 500hp ae86 this light will no doubt have no grip problems because of the time and know how that is being put into the suspension. You should know more than most its too much torque not hp that can cause problems and make a car seem loose or have no grip

One thing that i see all the time is people modifying there front hubs to get more steering angle and not realising that its giving them less forward bite

There is no disadvantage to removing weight as long as you realise you suspension needs to act differently with the lighter car

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

[QUOTE=D McNamara;194307]Good suspension and suspension geometry is what gives you grip not the weight of your vehicle

True

It may seem to some people that extra weight gives more grip but its not true. extra weight causes lots more problems. Equally ive seen many a tank of a car smoking tyres and going nowhere

True

One thing that i see all the time is people modifying there front hubs to get more steering angle and not realising that its giving them less forward bite


And true


People tend not to think about grip but in this day and age ya can go nowhere without it....! Literally....! I think corner weighting is at the stage where its essantial to be competive also....!

Love where this car is going....! It will be epic to say the least.........!

[jamie180sx]

Good suspension and suspension geometry is what gives you grip not the weight of your vehicle

obviously tyres play a part but its how the power is transmitted thru the tyres that is more important

It may seem to some people that extra weight gives more grip but its not true. extra weight causes lots more problems. Equally ive seen many a tank of a car smoking tyres and going nowhere

I set up Damien Shorts car for 2010 and im sure he would say himself that its now night and day compared to 2009. It gave him his first podium this year if im correct. His car is prob the same power and weight as my old sr86 and that didnt have grip problems either

Everyone said 3 years ago when ASD built the Saturn Sky that it was too powerfull and too light. It weighs 1000kg and has 800hp and 780ft.lbs of torque and now its regularly the fastest car on the grid

A 500hp ae86 this light will no doubt have no grip problems because of the time and know how that is being put into the suspension. You should know more than most its too much torque not hp that can cause problems and make a car seem loose or have no grip

One thing that i see all the time is people modifying there front hubs to get more steering angle and not realising that its giving them less forward bite

There is no disadvantage to removing weight as long as you realise you suspension needs to act differently with the lighter car

without a doubt shortts car was a different car,when ya set it up and have no doubt you will do something special with that ae86,i never thought of the sky with 800hp and when you see the way when you put the foot down it jumps forward with grip i suppose the 86 will be no prob to ya,
cant wait to see this thing move,

[jonosilvia]

One thing that i see all the time is people modifying there front hubs to get more steering angle and not realising that its giving them less forward bite

Could you explain how the modified hubs reduce your forward bite please

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

Im 99% sure what hes talking about is lads putting serious lock into cars without doing anythig for grip at the back.....!

The more angle ya have the less you'l be moving forward so you have to think about getting grip into the rear of the car to push yourself on....! Thats my thinking of it neway....!

Grip is a massive massive factor in drifting nowadays and you'd be very very surprised at how many lads still don't realise this....!

[yowdy]

i cant agree with the grip issue more,, i have serous grip issues off the line and mid drift all year due to a lack of rear setup,, will be dialing in grip over the next few mounths thanks to wez and the lads at wkd

[twailbait]

This is one serious build! Great fab work. Can't wait to see the finished article.

I'd say it will be a weapon.

[MCNSPORT.com]

Im 99% sure what hes talking about is lads putting serious lock into cars without doing anythig for grip at the back.....!

The more angle ya have the less you'l be moving forward so you have to think about getting grip into the rear of the car to push yourself on....! Thats my thinking of it neway....!

Grip is a massive massive factor in drifting nowadays and you'd be very very surprised at how many lads still don't realise this....!

Ya Robbie thats a lot of it but people changing theyre ackerman angle is also causing them problems with forward bite

[jamie180sx]

Ya Robbie thats a lot of it but people changing theyre ackerman angle is also causing them problems with forward bite

this intrest me also,as ive been considering extra lock hubs,at the min i think ive enough lock and anymore would only slow your forward motion,i dont really understand ackerman but ive been told removing this means that both wheels turn on lock exactly the same and this reduces the issue with forward motion on lock,now i dont know but would love to hear your side darren,but really other from to save you when u loose it,is there really any need for the amount of lock people are after,sorry for spam

[pole drift]

What is Ackerman???

[MCNSPORT.com]

this intrest me also,as ive been considering extra lock hubs,at the min i think ive enough lock and anymore would only slow your forward motion,i dont really understand ackerman but ive been told removing this means that both wheels turn on lock exactly the same and this reduces the issue with forward motion on lock,now i dont know but would love to hear your side darren,but really other from to save you when u loose it,is there really any need for the amount of lock people are after,sorry for spam

It is an interesting topic and there has been endless threads about it, most of them are full of people claiming they know what their talking about

It seems that a lot of people have got caught up in the backwards entry bandwagon and are modifying hubs with no real idea of what their doing

Removing the ackerman means both wheels turn the same amount, most people dont remove it but reduce it, but dont really no by how much they are reducing it

There will be new hubs available for the front and rear of the silvias soon out of america and they will be the dogs bollocks. made from billet aluminium. Nobody should buy any hubs until these come out!!

[MCNSPORT.com]

What is Ackerman???

Ackerman angle is a suspension geometry that causes toe out on turns

basically your inside wheel turning mode than your outside

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

What do you think of the driftworks hubs darren....!

[MCNSPORT.com]

What do you think of the driftworks hubs darren....!

Im pretty sure they are a copy of the sptec ones from japan that phil originally bought for his s15

Im on the fence about them. Im not sure if extra r&d was put into them or if they are just straight copies of the sptec items i havent been about to take a good look at them fitted to a car

I know one thing tho, if i had a choice between billet aluminium and welded steel id go for aluminium. Also, the people who are designing these hubs are race engineers who worked in F3 and NASCAR. They bought a s13 and are mapping out all the suspension points and geometry on a computer programme. Then the hubs with be machined from a block af aluminium on their cnc mill. The computer operator is the only labour on them so prices are looking very promising

[MCNSPORT.com]

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Just a quick update for all you Speedhunters ! We are in a bit of a transition period here, most parts have been mocked up and are away being machined (or moulded in the case of the FRP) so let's give you a small run through what we've done before we do a much larger update in a week or two ...

As you can see from the above picture, that is a very odd place to have the steering rack in an AE86 but that's where it now calls home, right in front of the 13B motor.

Also we have cut the bulkhead or firewall on the drivers side (RHD) and that is mocked up nicely but without having our transmission back from being machined we cannot install the motor and finish the passenger side so that is cut roughly for now.

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I really love this aerial shot from upstairs at MCNSPORT, you can really see how short this thing is from wheel to wheel. Oh and also our custom roof has arrived !

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Here is how we attach the 13B to the hachiroku. With the motor mounted back and our front steer system it should give us the best possible weight distribution. Also notice how one tube is straight and one is at an angle. All will become clear once we update you guys ...

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Speaking of weight distribution, here is the intake that feeds our rear mounted radiator.

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Here is the front of our roof. These intakes will also supply air to the radiator and some much needed air to myself while driving / holding on. This thing reminds me so much of an old Group B rally car, I love it!

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Okay, here is the mock up of our front suspension system including the new steering bracket. Yes, the steering is now worked off the front coilover.

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Like so. The slotted hole be changed once we map out everything at ride height.

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Here are the coolant pipes protruding through the bulkhead ...

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And here they are running through the cockpit on the passenger side. Passenger might get a little warm in this car ...

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A big, big thank you must go out to Carbonetic who supplied us with a Carbon Twin Plate Clutch. These are just a beautiful piece of kit.

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Sytec have this sweet bracket for the Bosch 044 pump. All Sytec products are available at MCNSPORT

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And finally another shot from above as the fabrication process gets closer to being complete.

There is a lot of crazy things being done to this car and that's what we wanted, to build something away from the norm like those glory days of Group B rallying. It looks like Europe is the only place we could build such a project now with the new tire to weight rules being imposed by Formula D

Keep logging onto Speedhunters.com to see our next update. The next one should be a big one!!

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

This build thread is nothing short of epic....! I don't think people realise the attention to detail thats going into it.....!

[Larryk]

Bleeding that rad will be great fun :)

Savage Build, would be some car for a decent driver to win and go competing in next year

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

Bleeding that rad will be great fun :)

Savage Build, would be some car for a decent driver to win and go competing in next year

I lol'd at that....! He ain't raffeling this 1 lad.....!

[stack-180sx]

cool job lad cant wait to see it finished what sort of power you going for ?? was back at WCP yesterday they had an RX7 with a big turbo kit not sure on the size but its bigger dan a TD06 running an apexi power fc at 0.9bar and made 350whp some screem off it :eek:

[MCNSPORT.com]

The turbo has been mocked up in place

Big thanks to Owen Developments for the Competition spec GT35R

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1214.snc4/156693_10150125271915809_125281815808_7535582_5847 861_n.jpg

[MCNSPORT.com]

cool job lad cant wait to see it finished what sort of power you going for ?? was back at WCP yesterday they had an RX7 with a big turbo kit not sure on the size but its bigger dan a TD06 running an apexi power fc at 0.9bar and made 350whp some screem off it :eek:

should be around 500bhp

350whp would be a nice street car but we need a little more on this project

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

Nice job......! Whats the differance between compatition and a normal gt35....! What manifold ya running...! About what rpm are you expecting boost....!

[MCNSPORT.com]

Nice job......! Whats the differance between compatition and a normal gt35....! What manifold ya running...! About what rpm are you expecting boost....!

Billet compressor wheel, uprated bearings and a couple of other things

We have made a mock up manifold to get the demensions we need and it will then be sent to Martelius in Finland to make a proper one

Hopefully should have full boost at 3500 but we'll see

[1jsoarer]

is this the car to be raffled?? :rolleyes::rolleyes: :D:D

[MCNSPORT.com]

is this the car to be raffled?? :rolleyes::rolleyes: :D:D

u wish haha

[MCNSPORT.com]

This is a copy and paste from speedhunters

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2010/Stories/DMAC/Update%20Three/IMG_2371.jpg
Welcome to the third update of the Need for Speed D-Mac 86. I have to say looking at these pictures I'm starting to get excited about this car, its shaping up to be something really special. It hard to get your head around the placement of the Owen Developments GT3582HTA turbo in this pic so lets take a look at the next.....

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Now it makes sense.......well kind of. The turbo is mounted differently to the norm. We have turned it 90degrees and the exhaust now runs down the side it should on a ae86. The reason we had to do this is because of how far back the engine is mounted and being RHD everything is on the right side namely the pedals and steering column and the 60mm screamer pipe. No room left for the exhaust on that side. The Turbo we are using is pretty special, its a Owen Developments Motorsport GT3582HTA turbo with motorsport bearing and billet internal stainless heatshield and ported shroud compressor cover!!

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Here we see just how far back we have pushed the engine. Also you can see the Tial 60mm External wastegate also Supplied by Owen Developments. Big thanks to the guys a Owen for their help

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This looks awesome if i do say so myself apart from the mess. We just don't have time to tidy up the workshop at the moment. I'm happy with the progress we are making, a lot of the major hurdles are now behind us

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Here you can see how we mounted the steering rack. The rack was made removable so you can take the engine out, as the engine mounts are solid to the chassis. The bolts in out tube joiners are only temporary. The tube with the 2 holes is the beginning of our oil cooler mount. Also you can see the rack spacers that we machine to give us extra travel and the block spacers that offset our inner tie rods and the half tube welded into the towers to give clearance. All this is visible in the second pic down also

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Our new steering knuckles are now in their final position and eagle eyed viewers will notice the brake caliper has been moved to the rear of the disk to allow our knuckles to be mounted. I was going to machine new caliper brackets to do this but then i got the brainwave to just swap the drivers side and passenger side struts.....job done

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This is the new path for our 90mm exhaust. The exhaust is now completely finished except for the tailpipe which will be made once all our aero is fitted. Big thanks to Martelius Exhausts in Finland for supplying all the parts we needed

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Here you can see that the original pedal assembly remains untouched and our new bulkhead is now finished. You can also just see the corner of the swagged aluminium passengers footrest

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This carefully placed window is now where you replace the oil filter along with other things like TPS adjustment

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Passenger footrest removed, you can see the completed bulkhead, transmission tunnel and exhaust tunnel. The transmission tunnel has been slightly widened because of how far back the gearbox now is. The Supra R154 transmission is in place complete with custom RX7 bellhousing adapter which allows the RX7 bellhousing to be bolted on complete and retain the RX7 Slave cylinder and clutch fork along with Flywheel, Pressure plate and Starter motor. The great design of the Carbonetic Twin plate clutch allows us to just replace the clutch centre hub to suit a R154 Supra Input shaft. The Supra gearbox is not very long so the new gearlever position suits our slightly further back driving position

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This is our new gearlever position, seat position and our mock up ASD Hydraulic e-brake. Aren't these the sexiest e-brakes ever!! We will be using a slightly longer handle on the finished ca which is being machined in ASD North Carolina as we speak

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One of my favourite parts is the rear mounted radiator which is now finished and mounted, along with the in car piping. Also the Alu sheet you can see is the mock up for the cover of the fuel cell

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This is a sexy piece!

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So nice to see all these ideas that have been in my head coming together

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Speaking of coming together.......the rear FRP shell is now mountable and so is the tailgate. The tailgate will be held in place by two tubes extending up from the chassis and mounted to our GT wing mounts. So all down force created will be transmitted to the chassis and to the tires rather than just flexing the tailgate. The GT Wing mounts should be finished in the next update

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OK so that's it for now. Who knows how much we will have done next time Paddy calls but I'm hoping to get the chassis painted as soon as i can so we can begin the final assembly. Can't wait to get this thing out on track

All comments welcome, i hope you guys like my brainchild

Stay tuned to speedhunters..........

Here is the direct link to speedhunters
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2010/12/30/builds-gt-gt-team-nfs-d-mac-ae86-pt-iii.aspx
please leave your comments guys

D-Mac

[1-JAY-Z]

This is bordering on unbelievable! serious work,

[k1984w]

WOW!!! That is some serious build

[snakie]

fab work is just unreal..

[Aidan Hogan]

:eek::eek::eek::cool::cool::cool:

[missfemale]

Speechless, serious man hours put into this!! is that a dual fan in the rear? cant wait see this completed!

[MCNSPORT.com]

Speechless, serious man hours put into this!! is that a dual fan in the rear? cant wait see this completed!

Yep dual fans in the rear

[ger15]

Serious build Darren fair play,cant wait for my spin as promised :p

[MCNSPORT.com]

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GT wing braces have been added

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All downforce goes directly to the chassis and to the tyres. The tailgate goes between the brace and the wing mount so it is kept in place by this system also. No need for pins

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The brace is removable via these clever joiners allowing the tailgate and GT Wing to come off in one piece

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

Lord latern Jesus.....! This thing is cronic.....! Must be unreal the hours you'v putten into this Darren.....! Your watching way too many cartoons..... :)

[Deco84]

good work man cant wait to see this done its goin to be animal love them wheels

[Tekno Twinky]

i cant wait to see this thing at mondello or punchestown!

[Prodrifter86]

Savage Savage Savage... i hope this car doenst go off and hide in america for years.. irish fans derseve to see this at a few irish events :)

[MCNSPORT.com]

Lord latern Jesus.....! This thing is cronic.....! Must be unreal the hours you'v putten into this Darren.....! Your watching way too many cartoons..... :)

Few hours alright but it'll be worth it!

[MCNSPORT.com]

I plan to run this at the Mondello PD round, it might be the only event it does here in IRL as it will have to make other appearances for Need for Speed in other countries

Im trying to put something else interesting together for all of PD IRL but we'll see how that works out

[hewland]

Savage work.

cant wait to see this stuck in the wall in fermoy like the last 1

[ian g sr20]

Savage work.

cant wait to see this stuck in the wall in fermoy like the last 1

:rolleyes: think u nead a ban on ur name

[hewland]

:rolleyes: think u nead a ban on ur name

i think u need a bin on your mothers face

[Scamper]

Will she go bop bop then??^^^ :)

[danmoorhead]

jesus this is fukin savage!!!

[Micko]

Mind boggling!Epic!

[MCNSPORT.com]

Via Speedhunters Facebook page

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[James Deane RX7]

Looks sweet after the lick of paint :)

[ian g sr20]

i seen this car when i was down with dan last nite by god wat a build reli has to be seen to be appericated some amount of time and effort gone into chassic, savage work

[MCNSPORT.com]

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Here is a quick update for you guys on the Need for Speed D-Mac '86. Our mock up exhaust manifold has been sent to Martelius exhausts in Finland along with our front and rear coolant pipes to be ceramic coated. Here is a shot of the new Martelius manifold being welded in Finland.

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And here is the finished product. I think you'll agree they have done a great job and the new manifold will be at MCNSPORT HQ very shortly for final fitment.

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As mentioned above Martelius offer a ceramic coating service. The two treatments we will be using on the D-Mac '86 are a 'Thermal Barrier' and a 'dispersant'. The manifold and eventually the turbine housing of the Owens Developments turbo will be coated with the 'Thermal Barrier' which not only lowers the under bonnet temperatures but also prevents the loss of energy from the exhaust gases to the manifold and housing through heat absorption. The second 'dispersant' treatment will be applied to the intercooler and inlet manifold etc and this actually improves the metals ability to disperse heat and should lead to much cooler intake temps. The coolant pipes will also get coated, the hot pipe from the engine to the radiator with a 'thermal barrier' and the cold pipe from the radiator to the engine with the 'dispersant'

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20RE86%20PART%20IV/boxout.jpg
While the chassis was being painted, it gave us a chance to prep the motor and transmission for final fitment. For me no engine compares to rotary when at this stage. The contrasting colours of irons and rotor housings is just so cool!! We were working pretty hard as you can see from all the abandoned spanners ! LOL!

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Here we are at paint. Every process of this build is done in house so this is in my make shift spray booth in the corner of the shop. Thats is Dan in the back round who does all the painting here. The underneath of the car resembles swiss cheese from all the drilling of spot welds holding brackets that we deemed unnecessary.

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With the underneath painted its was time to flip it over and paint inside and under the bonnet. Feels great to get to this stage and get all the fab work done and now when something gets bolted on it can actually be tightened and wont be coming off again, hopefully for a long time.

Here is a link to the official Speedhunters update
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/02/03/builds-gt-gt-team-nfs-d-mac-ae86-pt-iv.aspx

[1jsoarer]

is that an R154 box i see???

[MCNSPORT.com]

is that an R154 box i see???

It is indeed

[1jsoarer]

It is indeed

Savage, much work to get them matched up??.... What ya do use a r154 disc in the 13b pressure plate??....did ya do any bridge porting to the rotor housings??

[MCNSPORT.com]

Savage, much work to get them matched up??.... What ya do use a r154 disc in the 13b pressure plate??....did ya do any bridge porting to the rotor housings??

A bit of work alright, a good friend took care of it for us. Supra bellhousing was machined down to the correct depth and a alu plate was welded onto it. Then the bolt pattern for the RX7 bellhousing was drilled into the plate, then tapped so it bolts straight on

Carbonetic took care of the clutch, using a Twin plate carbon RX7 clutch kit with a Supra centre hub

The engine is bridgeported yes:cool:

[1jsoarer]

Fair play man, a real frankenstein machine!!......a man of me heart:D

[MCNSPORT.com]

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Part%20V/IMG_3762.jpg

Okay, the Need for Speed D-Mac '86 is back to its build bay in the shop which is getting more and more untidy as the weeks go on! Hopefully it should come together quickly and we can tidy up round here. You might notice the front tube extension has not been painted. This is because at the time the car was going for paint we did not have the intercooler and could not make the brackets to hold it in place and also the brackets for the bumper bar need to be made and we need all the aero on for that part of the build.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Part%20V/IMG_3763.jpg

Bridgeported 13B goodness courtesy of Hayward Rotary in the UK. It has finally been bolted into its new home and not snagging on any part of the rusty old Corolla :-)

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It looks so much better with paint on it!

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We have to do our best not to scratch it while installing all our interior bits. In the next update the interior should be completed all going to plan.

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This is the last shot of the rear interior before the view gets obscured by our custom radiator, piping and roof vent.

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The rear axle is now painted and located with our 4 link system. It's hard to beat black and white.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Part%20V/IMG_3827.jpg

Our custom top link is now installed. This should allow us to fine tune our setup quickly on track, not like the original two upper links that are very awkward to access. You can see the BOSCH pump and bullet filter installed ready to be covered by the fuel cell.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Part%20V/IMG_3788.jpg

The tunnel and bulkhead were just second to the steering in the time consumption stakes but now theyOur MCN/AVO rear coilovers are ready to transmit more power to the tarmac than any other AE86 drift car in history. We wanted to run standard and just off the shelf AE86 suspension rather than a custom trick suspension setup just so we can prove just how good our '86 suspension is.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Part%20V/IMG_3802.jpg

Likewise at the front. We are using the MCN/AVO adjustable front inserts inside the original struts with weld on coilover conversion tubes.

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This has been the most head wrecking part of the build, the custom steering. I hate and love this steering rack in equal measure. It took quite a large amount of time to get everything working the way we wanted it to, but if it all works out it should perform really well.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Part%20V/IMG_3856.jpg

We made a custom steering column so we could throw away the over complicated Toyota one. A new gear lever has been made for the Supra transmission and we modified the 16 inch ASD vertical e-brake lever to just the right position for me.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Part%20V/IMG_3847.jpg

Aerial view of currently the world's shortest '86!

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Right so, that is it for now, time to get back to work. It should start to come together pretty quickly now. I cannot wait to here the first brap from this thing!

Speedhunters link http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/02/07/builds-gt-gt-team-nfs-d-mac-ae86-pt-v.aspx

[chrisbrady325]

Wow!!! now thats a tidy piece of work! the e-brake is brilliant really is the best angle to have it at!

[supraman3000]

Serious machine , power to weight ratio of the scales

[Cezeli]

Wow that really is a work of art - i cant describe it in any other way.

Serious serious work there.

[ian g sr20]

work is amazing. any pics of it with the turbo :p, seen it last night some set up..

[MCNSPORT.com]

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It's update time again Speedhunters and a lot of work has gone on since last time. When Paddy arrives we scurry around to get stuff out of the way and stuff in the way that we want included. He seems to have caught that moment quite well.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4050.jpg

The Owen Development's turbo is becoming a more permanent part of the build and very shortly it will be bolted in place for the final time. The downpipe has been made with the intercooler piping currently being done. The oil and water lines are also nearly finished and we just got to fabricate the intake pipe and then it is complete.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4074.jpg

Wiggens clamps will be used on both hot and cold sides of the intercooler and since Paddy was here the screamer pipe is done and attached to the Tial 60mm wastegate.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4075.jpg

Speaking of the cold side, here it is and it will be completed very shortly.

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The exhaust manifold has returned from Martelius Exhausts in Finland and it fits in without touching the steering column. Phew !

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The interior has come along nicely and I have to give a plug to K&N as they hooked us up with air and oil filters on very short notice and we are very happy to be running the best filters in the world!

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The racing dry cell battery has been mounted under the passenger seat for optimal weight distribution.

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A lot going on in this picture, our carbon AE86 dash has been fitted and equipped with Defi gauges and controller. You can see we made a custom steering column and got rid of the ugly Toyota one. Pedals are now in, as are the fuel lines and the ASD e-brake has been positioned to my preference. I have decided to install the aluminium centre partition panels for testing, these were made as templates for the carbon fibre panels and will be replaced with carbon fibre at a later date.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4110.jpg

Here you can see the tubular intercooler mount and i think this picture gives you a good idea of just how far back the engine has been positioned.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4126.jpg

This gives you a better shot of the aluminium partition panels and fuel cell firewall. The fuel cell will be filled through the quarter window. The rear radiator is now bolted in place and the coolant pipes are also connected.

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The pipes returned from Martelius in Finland, with their ceramic thermal barrier and dispersant coatings. One is a matt black finish and the other is gloss black which looks pretty cool. You can see the fuel cell filler mounted through the quarter window here also.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4133.jpg

One change in the suspension is the custom lower control arms we are making. Because of the amount of steering angle we have, the wheel now hits the tension rod if placed in the normal ae86 position so we are making a custom "A" arm which will give us the clearance needed.

Next update will follow shortly and will give you guys a look at the awesome aero for this AE86.

D-Mac

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/02/21/builds-gt-gt-team-nfs-d-mac-ae86-pt-vi.aspx

[Aidan Hogan]

Looks so clean and perfect :D

[meego1]

this could give the saturn sky a run for its money ,cant wait to see in action:)

[Prodrifter86]

Classsssssss. fuking classss

[pole drift]

Your work in this is unbelievable, i take my hat off to you.

[skinnynphats200]

Lovely work, minty fresh!

[KerryKid1JZ]

D: nuff said

[MCNSPORT.com]

Thanks for the comments guys

More to come shortly

[1jsoarer]

fuckin love it!!!!....will this be in the first round of pd this year??......or will you be in greener pastures!!:D

[MCNSPORT.com]

No it def wont be at round 1 but we'll see how the PD schedule lines up after that

[MCNSPORT.com]

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4046.jpg

Back once again and our Falken Tires have arrived for testing! It feels pretty good to be at this stage as we know we're getting close to finally driving this beast

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4089.jpg

We are also at the stage of getting the aero fitted. Our Work Meister S1s' are gone for powder coating but we have kept one behind for mocking up the aero fitment.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4058.jpg

All the aero parts are produced by us and available at www.mcnsport.com. The N3 aero kit is making this one of the widest AE86's in the world.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4097.jpg

And man it is wide! The larger rear spoiler will suit the car much better than the regular spoiler because of how extreme and wide the car has become.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4107.jpg

Crazy wide! I can't wait to get this out in the daylight and admire the stance.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4083.jpg

The quarter windows are polycarbonate and have three ducts per side to take air to the rear mounted radiator during forward motion. The three vertical slots that are marked out but not cut are for taking in air when the car is sideways.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4082.jpg

Here I am trying to get the roof in place for Paddy's pics. He caught me out with that one !

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4116.jpg

With the rear spoiler removed you can see how the GT Wing mounts. The spoiler will be slotted and place over the mount so the wing stays come neatly out of the spoiler with no visable mounts.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4123.jpg

The wing should be plenty wide enough to compliment the N3 aero.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4138.jpg

And here we have a shot of Paddy's camera bag complete with handy pockets for stickers, lenses etc LOL

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4153.jpg

Here is the bonnet / hood we are using and the FRP door in place.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4168.jpg

This is a shot without the N3 overfenders on ...

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4169.jpg

... and here we are with them in place. This car will have a lot of presence.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4172.jpg

Oh Lord, can someone from Need for Speed please call and tidy up as we dont have time !?

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4191.jpg

It had to be Work Meisters for me on this project. They are such a timeless wheel and look great on old skool as well as modern machines.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4200.jpg

Got lock ?

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4207.jpg

You can see why the custom A arms had to be made, even with the tension rod moved inwards the wheel still gets very close.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/DMAC%20Parts%20SIXandSEVEN/IMG_4187.jpg

Right well that is it for another update. I don't know where we will be when we update you again, but hopefully we will be making noise ...

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D-Mac

[200sx-slider]

can weight to see this yoke going flat out sideways good build man

[joey banana s14]

i dont even have any words to describe this unreal work cars is a pure credit to all involved take a bow chaps;)

[wezwkd]

Seen this today in the flesh up to date with pics you guys have just seen.

Apologies as I don't have the words to describe this thing.

Ive seen quite a few builds in the past but NEVER before like this.

Watch this space. ;)

Wez

[MikeFitz]

Seen this today in the flesh up to date with pics you guys have just seen.

Apologies as I don't have the words to describe this thing.

Ive seen quite a few builds in the past but NEVER before like this.

Watch this space. ;)

Wez

Yeah thats a fact, being around the garage working on the FC it's amazing to see the amount of work that's going into this car, with almost everything being bespoke. Its going to be some machine when its finished!

[missfemale]

The size of them child bearing hips on her!!! only messing looks great! hear its keeping you a busy man!

[Prodrifter86]

Man this isnt a car. its a piece of engineering!!! lol classs i want it

[twailbait]

Really wanna see this with the full kit on it and sitting on the ground, should look mad as fuck!

[MCNSPORT.com]

Thanks for all the comments guys and gal (missmale) wont be long now until were brapping:D

[garyae86]

what a wicked build cant wait to see finishing art

[ger15]

WOW Amazing looking,hard to think of words to describe it,its just savage

[Cezeli]

Looks wicked looking - really looking forward to seeing it up close and personal.

[MCNSPORT.com]

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Welcome to update number eight of our crazy AE86 project! This time we are not just going to look at the new details on the build, but we are also going to take a look at the finished product via Shift2 Unleashed. I love this first pic from Paddy, it captures the real presence that the car seems to have around the shop, it seems no one can pass by without doing a double take.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Rod%202011/Shift2/Dmac/02-10-11_NFSCOM_TOYOTA_COROLLA_AE86_02_PS_NOWM.jpg

And so to the in-game car parked here at the famous Eau Rouge at the Spa Francorchamps circuit. It's so cool for me to be able to see the finished product so early in the build, normally all the images are in my head. The timeline for this project was very tight and we did not have the luxury of a long schedule like Vaughn's RTR-X project. The car does differ slightly from the real world version as it has developed and we have problem solved. The main development was me completely wrecking the car at a Prodrift event and being left with two options:

1: Throw away the chassis or 2: to remove an awful lot of metal and built something crazy. So here we will also cover some of the differences between the in game D-Mac86 and the real world D-Mac86 and the reasoning behind them.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Rod%202011/Shift2/Dmac/02-10-11_NFSCOM_TOYOTA_COROLLA_AE86_11_PS_NOWM.jpg

This looks so cool! One of the main differences is the front bumper. The N2 aero is designed to work with stock bumpers, in this case a Sprinter Trueno Zenki bumper. This bumper was designed to keep a normally aspirated 4AGE and its radiator cool but as the 13B Turbo will produce so much more heat and have an intercooler we demanded much more air flow than the Trueno Zenki bumper could provide. What we are using is only an update away ...

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Rod%202011/Shift2/Dmac/02-10-11_NFSCOM_TOYOTA_COROLLA_AE86_16_PS_NOWM.jpg

Here is a better, if fly spattered, view of the bumper. I wonder if I will ever get to drive it down the straight in Irwindale? (This car is NOT for Formula D) I just recently returned from Electronic Arts in Vancouver, Canada where I took on ALMS driver Tommy Milner in an Autolog battle and played the game as much as I could. I of course took the D-Mac86 to drift at Irwindale as well as the infamous Ebisu. It would be amazing to be able to take the real car to America and Japan sometime.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4572.jpg

Okay, so back to the real world and back to MCNSPORT.com HQ

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4558.jpg

Getting the car on the ground was a big milestone and so was getting our Work Meisters back from powder coating, now in a stealthy satin black finish.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4581.jpg

A lot of bits and bobs have been done to the engine as it gets close to firing up for the first time. Plugs, plug leads, coils, fuel lines, fuel pressure regulator, K&N oil filter and screamer pipe have now all been fitted.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Rod%202011/Shift2/Dmac/12-03-10_BOSSCARS_04.jpg

For the brakes, we plan to do a brake upgrade on the real car once we get it running as we are expecting it to be quiet fast. Power to weight ratio is looking pretty impressive from the corner weight figures we have.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Rod%202011/Shift2/Dmac/12-03-10_BOSSCARS_14.jpg

The biggest difference in the two cars is at the rear and anyone who has been following the build will know why ...

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4626.jpg

... the rear mounted radiator. Because of this modification to gain the best possible weight distribution, a few things had to be different to any AE86 we have seen before. We needed to get air to the radiator so we decide to make a custom roof and quarter windows. Another thing I wanted to do was make the rear end more crash proof, as lets face it drift cars are meant to hit/rub/scrape things with the rear. So our collapsible bumper bar is now in place holding the FRP rear end on and it's all easily replaceable if and when we take it all off.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4593.jpg

The rear Falken tyres are absolutely massive at 275/40/17. They look huge on the small '86 chassis!

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4597.jpg

Our rear ride height is now set and we will start to locate our axle links for the geometry we require very soon. Another question mark I had was would I be able to run the exhaust out the rear or would I have to turn it down underneath the car. Well it looks like we can get it out the rear bumper so I'm looking forward to some pictures with big rotary flames from Paddy. One of the coolest things of the in-game car is the rotary sound. It sounds like a real bridgeport and pops and bangs on the overrun when you lift off the throttle. It really shows the attention to detail that has gone into this game and my hat goes off to all the NFS crew.

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This is definitely filling the arch!

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4609-Edit.jpg

And so on to the front suspension where we have spent most of our time lately. Here is the final steering angle we have ended up with.

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Here is how it looks from the front. Another addition from the last update is our front support bars. They are made from a very light material so that if the unthinkable happens they will collapse instead of moving the strut top out of line. Then the front tube extension can be cut off and replaced with a new one. The other purpose of the front support bars is to act as support for the front wing/fender and headlight covers as well as mounting the front bonnet/hood pins.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4612.jpg

The change in front steering ackerman angle and the amount of steering angle have caused problems with the trailing or outside wheel. It is now turning so much the tension rod had to be moved and we now have to make four lock stops for this car (two per wheel) as it is trying to kick or go over centre which is rare on a front steer steering rack

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4631-Edit.jpg

That's me and my Dad looking on as Paddy does his thing. Very little work left to do in the cockpit now. Biggest job is the line lock for holding the front brakes to allow us to warm the rears without putting excess stress on the car.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Builds/Dmac%20Part%20VIII/IMG_4639.jpg

The rear polycarbonate screen has been installed and the TRS harness is now ready to keep me strapped in.

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Rod%202011/Shift2/Dmac/12-07-10_BOSSCARS3_18.jpg

My dream '86 is so close to becoming a reality now, I expect real life driving shots like this one in two weeks time! Except without the working headlights :-)

The visuals in Shift2 Unleashed are just amazing aren't they?

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Rod%202011/Shift2/Dmac/12-07-10_BOSSCARS3_20.jpg

Most cars in computer games are copied from real life vehicles but this time it has been a true collaboration of the virtual and real worlds. We expect the D-Mac86 to take the giant killing hachiroku to a new level, punching way above its weight just like it does in Need for Speed Shift2 Unleashed

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D-Mac

[Simon]

the wheels sprayed black???? noooooo! completly takes away from them, maybe its just in the photos...

[Scamper]

the wheels sprayed black???? noooooo! completly takes away from them, maybe its just in the photos...

Have to agree im afraid, epic build tho

[Administrator]

Holy fuck man, you've been busy! That looks fucking class! Dark S1s look cool on the right car, and I'm pretty sure that looks like it'll turn into the right car

[Prodrifter86]

ahh fuk it . wheels are cool. but they there not meisters anymore. bad move there darren......! still look badass but the white looked class.. other than that the car is class dude

[MCNSPORT.com]

I dont think its a bad move, when the work stickers and the white pin stripe go on i think it will look much meaner

anyone can have meisters with a white centre and polished lip and anyone can have an 86 but thats not what this project is about

[Aidan Hogan]

Wow , that 8th update made it all seem real and so close to the end :cool:

[Prodrifter86]

I dont think its a bad move, when the work stickers and the white pin stripe go on i think it will look much meaner

anyone can have meisters with a white centre and polished lip and anyone can have an 86 but thats not what this project is about

yeah i still do like it. but someting really popped with the white rims. but as you said about the stickers. they just look like you cant see the rim there so black.. this is a crazyy build though! haha class

[Micko]

Wheels are mean! love the whole project. its a credit.

[Fredericks Balls]

If I bought a set of meisters the only colour i'd have them in is matt black....

They. Look. Awesome! If you put a small white detail of some sort on them that will be cool too but even as they are they are sexy :)


P.S. the rest of the car looks wicked!

[Prodrifter86]

yeah i would like to see the car with the dark rims in person before i make the conclusion! meisters on the Chasers Kieren ?? hmmmmmmmmm

[stack-180sx]

my god this is just unreal fair play lad :cool:

[Spartacus]

Such an absolutely brilliant build, so much thought, planning and effort gone into it. Looking forward to seeing this out and driving some time. Massive respect for all the work.

Who cares what the colour of the wheels are, the awesomenes of the build overshadows all that for me.

[MikeFitz]

Im not usually a man for black wheels but these are gorgeous under the car in the flesh! Mean wheels for a mean car! :D

[garyae86]

same as that not a man for black wheels but im liking this now

[Tekno Twinky]

need for spreed looks so bad tbh lol

The car looks great! some spare white wheels would be another option but looks good to me anyway! insane lock :):)

[MCNSPORT.com]

Here is some pics and video of the almost finished product

Final build update also due soon

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Desktops/IMG_3923-Edit-2.jpg

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Desktops/IMG_5634-Edit.jpg

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Desktops/IMG_3851-Edit.jpg

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Desktops/IMG_5657-Edit.jpg

One lucky passenger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1AlGoQgQu0

Tech TV vid
http://www.techtv101.com/features%20need-for-speed-shift-2-unleashed-pro-drift-academy-day-video-1

Car is currently getting the finishing touches for the cover of a very well known UK mag

[KerryKid1JZ]

Here is some pics and video of the almost finished product

Final build update also due soon

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Desktops/IMG_3923-Edit-2.jpg

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Desktops/IMG_5634-Edit.jpg

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Desktops/IMG_3851-Edit.jpg

http://assets.speedhunters.com/Images/Paddy%20McGrath/2011/Desktops/IMG_5657-Edit.jpg

One lucky passenger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1AlGoQgQu0

Tech TV vid
http://www.techtv101.com/features%20need-for-speed-shift-2-unleashed-pro-drift-academy-day-video-1

Car is currently getting the finishing touches for the cover of a very well known UK mag

Banzai????????????????

[speedy200sx]

unreal lookin car lad:D
some class work gone into it
best o luck with her:D

[skinnynphats200]

Looks amazing dude fair play! Good luck with it!

[Cezeli]

Amazing car - delighted i was there to video it at the NFS launch

Sound of it is amazing!

[D1 Chomer]

F**KIN savage lookin. Like de way der was loads of run off ground at de track. U werent riskin wreckin her just yet. :D:D

[Aidan Hogan]

The sound truly makes it :D:D:D:D:D

[garyae86]

credit to ya seriously one off build :cool:

[Prodrifter86]

fuk the noise is unreal lad. fairplay.. hmm im actually warming to the rims now.. i get the hard bold look now. ace.

[Micko]

What is the feedback in terms of handling and power?

Im sure its savage but curious to know. seen the pics and vids but little about how it actually went!

[MCNSPORT.com]

Applying the finishing touches for tomorrows photoshoot

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[git]

smashn lookin car .........

[MCNSPORT.com]

What is the feedback in terms of handling and power?

Im sure its savage but curious to know. seen the pics and vids but little about how it actually went!

Power is good, straight line speed is very impressive

needs more development handling wise

[Chuck_g]

Its a serious car, i was wary when i saw pics but saw it in the flesh last week n its sweet as fuck. So much perfection gone into it. Mega machine.

[Prodrifter86]

yeah the work rims look the shit with the little bit of white on them with the sticker etc.. looks fukin awesome

[killian]

some serious build man..
cant wait to see this in person and to hear it go..

[MCNSPORT.com]

We will have the 86 on display at PD Ennis this weekend. Looks so much better in person

[sands]

Display as in eating it's rear tyres round the track, or parked up? guessing wont be the frist

[LAGGER]

saw this sunday, was blown away hopefully it will be out spin in round 2

[MCNSPORT.com]

Go get your copy of Japanese Performance Magazine now!!

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[Micko]

good work! will invest in a copy later on

[MCNSPORT.com]

This will be on display in PD Fermoy this weekend if anyone wants a look

[KerryKid1JZ]

This will be on display in PD Fermoy this weekend if anyone wants a look
you should have it sideways not hardparked:p:p

[MCNSPORT.com]

you should have it sideways not hardparked:p:p

all in due time......

[KerryKid1JZ]

all in due time......
hopefully:D. the noise out of it is unbeileble

[MCNSPORT.com]

Another first for a drift car, electric power steering.......

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[sideways_madness]

let us know how the electric steering works out darren as i have one sitting here for to fit wen i make a start on building my ae86. works well in alot of rally cars but would like to hear how it works for drifting.

[MCNSPORT.com]

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Ps unit has been installed and is working. No time to drive the car as i have to leave for FD in the morning. Really hope this works out as planned....

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We have a dash mounted knob that varies the assist given by the motor and turned funny clockwise it switches the motor off. So hopefully we can dial in the correct amount of feel

[MCNSPORT.com]

Prepping the car for Awesomefest this weekend......
Should get some very good testing in over the weekend

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We have improved the rear radiator ducting to try and bring water temps down a bit. I think it turned out pretty well

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Got a .82 AR Turbine Housing from Owen Developments for quicker spool at short tracks and in the wet

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And 3 pallets of Falken Tyres arrived ready for some serious abuse

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[MCNSPORT.com]

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Tear down after awesomefest......

Unfortunately we had electric power steering problems which prevented us from drifting like we wanted to. We are now converting to electrofluid steering so that should solve the problem

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We also had a spigot bearing collapse on us in Mallory so a new one needs to be installed and the engine and box have to be removed to do this

And we are coverting to electic water pump, which should be a better system for the rear mounted rad

1 more test session before we head to BDC Silverstone in September

[MCNSPORT.com]

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Fitting the new fluid rack

[damo86]

wats the bit of twine tied to tie rod for lad?

[colm]

saw this over in mallory and it looked silly fast.

What rack were you using before this new one?

[sideways_madness]

what kind of problems did you find with the electric steering set up darren? i had started fitting a corsa one to my ae86 but maybe need a change of plan now? alot of rally men seem to be using them with no problems so would be intresting to know.

[Robbie Daly Ps13]

It works on a rally car perfect because theres on need to turn the wheels as quick....! Electric power steering won't unravil itself quick enough for drifting....!

[sideways_madness]

How does the likes of electric steering fair out on a honda s2000 while drifting or does any one who drifts one remove them if they cause problems?

[1jsoarer]

maybe i missed something but Whats the reason for trying all those electric units??? why not just put in a normal hydraulic rack??

[MCNSPORT.com]

wats the bit of twine tied to tie rod for lad?

Thats the centre line of the car

tie rod just acting as a weight

[MCNSPORT.com]

saw this over in mallory and it looked silly fast.

What rack were you using before this new one?

It was a manual rx7 rack

[MCNSPORT.com]

what kind of problems did you find with the electric steering set up darren? i had started fitting a corsa one to my ae86 but maybe need a change of plan now? alot of rally men seem to be using them with no problems so would be intresting to know.

Basically what Robbie said. In rallying you never leave go of the wheel but while drifting you rely on the castor to self centre the wheel and the resistance of the electric motor on the colum doesnt allow it to return fast enough

We fitted a controller and increased castor and still didnt work out

For normal racing or rallying its a good system tho

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How does the likes of electric steering fair out on a honda s2000 while drifting or does any one who drifts one remove them if they cause problems?

ive heard they are a pig to drift

dunno if they are full electric or electro fluid

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maybe i missed something but Whats the reason for trying all those electric units??? why not just put in a normal hydraulic rack??

well technically it would work out a better system as you can vary the assist with a controller

also it takes a load off the engine as you dont need a belt running a pump, altho it does put an extra draw on the altenator

and no fluid to leak

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Cheers Darren, I'll jus fit it to my dads mk1 escort instead then.
What power steering are you gonna go for? I think the ae86 power steering rack has more turns lock to lock than a manual ae86 one, I'd need to check tho, and I'm not sure if a quick rack can be fitted to the power assisted one either but would need to look at the differences.

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Cheers Darren, I'll jus fit it to my dads mk1 escort instead then.
What power steering are you gonna go for? I think the ae86 power steering rack has more turns lock to lock than a manual ae86 one, I'd need to check tho, and I'm not sure if a quick rack can be fitted to the power assisted one either but would need to look at the differences.

The ae86 manula rack has more teeth in it so thats what is better for drifting

Quick rack isnt really ideal as it has no extra teeth machined in it so you cannot spacer the tie rods

We are going to use mr2 power steering pump on this now

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well technically it would work out a better system as you can vary the assist with a controller

also it takes a load off the engine as you dont need a belt running a pump, altho it does put an extra draw on the altenator

and no fluid to leak

yeah i heard them rotarys hadn't fuck all power.....cant even drive a power steering pump:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

how ever if all fails,you could probably use a draft valve (like on a tractors lift system) to control the hydraulic system.......????

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yeah i heard them rotarys hadn't fuck all power.....cant even drive a power steering pump:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

how ever if all fails,you could probably use a draft valve (like on a tractors lift system) to control the hydraulic system.......????

haha you'll see the power in mondello ill leave you make your own mind up

we should have it sorted now with the system we are using

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Finally got round to doing the new brake lines

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Got the new electro fluid pump and reservoir mounted

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Also fitted the electric water pump in the rear next to the rad

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Any chance of a lend of it??