NCT + harnesses

[CillianS14a]

Well lads im wondering is there any issues with doing the NCT and having driver and passenger harnesses with seatbelts removed? My nct is coming up and i have a full bolt-in cage there to go in yet just still looking at getting harnesses. What are the regs on harnesses does anybody know? 2" or 3"?? Im guessing its a bit of a grey area here, but in the UK its looks like any flimsey bit of string is good enough.

cheers

[Hositos1]

It s all depends who is testnig car at nct., i had harness,bolt in cage and deep bucket seat and passed no problem,only issue i had was that bucket seat was deep and ur man couldnt get into cose was too fat and start to.giving out.... But passed,

[trd-gt]

afaik garda doesnt accept them as a belt,not sure about nct

[mr.jailbait]

what do rally cars do en route to the stage?

[20vees]

plenty of cars come from the factory with harnesses, most of them are e-marked , id have a 4point harness over a standard seat belt any day

[fitzer]

harnesses are cool well have them over a normal seat belt cause not only do they look cool but there cool to wear half the fun of drivin is puttin on the harness :)

[CillianS14a]

I'd prefer a 3" 4 point or better to a seatbelt myself, barrysmotorsport do a great price on the trs ones

There's no clear rules on harnesses being road legal even though rally cars etc are supposed to be road legal. None that set as far as i can find yet anyways.

It took 3 attempts for the test centre to get someone not overweight to fit in my bucket seat last time

Anyone else put a car through with a harness and seatbelts removed?

[colm]

I was told by a fella working in a nct centre that harnesses are fine in the car as long as the original seatbelts are still there. This was a while back now though and I'm sure like most places its differnet rules on different days for different people.

Will the cage fit with the seatbelts in place?

[diggerdolan]

From talking to a friend who is a tester, he said he ll pass a safe harness any day of the week but, but if the tester feels the mounting of the harness is unsafe or the bolts that are holding them in aren't up to job they ll fail the car.

[PeterT]

Cefiro passed with cage, stripped interior, 2 buckets and 2 harnesses when I nctd it many moons ago

[CillianS14a]

I was told by a fella working in a nct centre that harnesses are fine in the car as long as the original seatbelts are still there. This was a while back now though and I'm sure like most places its differnet rules on different days for different people.

Will the cage fit with the seatbelts in place?

I'd say it could come down to the testers mood colm, unfortunately my Fabricage is such a good fit there's no space for the belts at all, but there's a harness bar in the rear section to wrap the harnesses around. I found 2 E marked harnesses in the uk for sale just finding out a bit more detail at the minute.


From talking to a friend who is a tester, he said he ll pass a safe harness any day of the week but, but if the tester feels the mounting of the harness is unsafe or the bolts that are holding them in aren't up to job they ll fail the car.

I've heard that before myself its very fair to be honest, i'll just give it a go and see what they say.


Cefiro passed with cage, stripped interior, 2 buckets and 2 harnesses when I nctd it many moons ago

i'll just be giving it a go anyways peter, seems that there's nothing 100% nothing clear on the matter so i'll just have to wait and see

[CillianS14a]

Just thought i'd update this for future reference if anyone wants to know. My car just passed the nct with full bolt in through dash cage, 2 X 2" Safety devices 4 point harnesses and bucket seat, no rear seats, carpet or standard seat belts in the car.

The harnesses are both E marked but he didn't check them for it. I also found the law on harnesses in vehicles,

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1971/en/si/0096.html


(a) be a diagonal belt, a three point belt or a harness belt as defined in Regulation No. 16;

(b) be securely attached to the anchorage points provided for it under article 3 of these Regulations;

(c) in the case of a belt fitted with a retractor, satisfy the requirements of the First Schedule to these Regulations;

(d) be clearly and indelibly marked—

(i) with one of the approved standard marks set out in Column 2 of the Second Schedule to these Regulations, and

(ii) with the belt manufacturer's name, initials, trade name or trade-mark.

It basically states that the "safety belt" must have one of the approved standard marks shown on the page, one of those is an "E" marking.

Anyone with a harness on a road car should print it off just to have handy for future reference.